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Skwigg Blog
Saturday, 20 June 2009
Numbers

So, last night in the comments, RG said, "Renee, please just take your calipers out and tell us your body fat.  It doesn't take more than 5 minutes.  I'm betting it's up to 19%"

To which I wrote a fabulous response about how I'm happy with the way I look and the numbers just don't matter anymore, blah, blah, blah...

Faithful readers probably know exactly what happened next. I woke up this morning and went running for the calipers like a lab rat crossing an electric floor for a Froot Loop. :-D

For the five people who care, the average of three 3-site caliper tests was 18.2%, the Tanita scale (fully hydrated on "athlete" mode) says 20.5%, and the mOron hand held (fully hydrated, doesn't have an "athlete" mode) says 22.8%. Since my vague notion of a goal was 18-22%, I would say I'm right in there somewhere.

Interesting tidbit, I once had Leigh Peele and her amazing body fat analyzing eyeballs give me her best guess on my percentage of body fat in various photos that I had a caliper reading to go with. In every case, my self-inflicted caliper readings were about 1-3% lower than her expert guess, which was a relief because it means my readings are at least consistent and close, maybe a little optimistic but not like completely delusional.

So, RG, your 19% guess is probably right on. It's funny how my ideal floats. Lately it's sort of a girly-but-fit look, definitely smaller, lighter, and less ripped in terms of veins, striations and muscle size. Speaking of which, did you guys see the post/comments on Leigh's blog about Bulky Muscles and Female Training? Those survey results blew my mind. Jessica Biel and Hillary Swank are not what I would consider big scary muscle chicks! And I had to watch the video clip twice to figure out which group of women were the "amazons." They all looked the same to me.

I also went back and read a good rant by Josh Hillis about How Thin Is Too Thin. I seem to remember that the first time I read it two years ago, it made me madder than hell. Now, I can't recall exactly why I got so bent. These days, I tend to agree with his 18-23% range for everyday happiness. I also agree that most women can't see it. If they're 18%, they want to be 17%, and if they're 17%, they want to be 15%, and if they're 15%, they still don't like their thighs.


Posted by skwigg at 2:40 PM CDT

Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 3:01 PM CDT

Name: "Missy"

That is too funny! I can just see you running for the calipers!! Great job! I am glad you are where you want to be - I would have said 18% just guessing. Yes, I read the blog by Leigh, and like you, I could not figure out which group was the Amazons! If Jessica Biel is bulky, then Valerie Waugaman would make those women faint. Personally, I love the Figure competitor look but I think the Jessica Albas and the softer look looks great too! I am gonna read the link to Josh Hillis's blog. He put up an article about bulky women too and it was good. Valerie Waters also had a good one.

Oh and so glad your older dog is still ready to shuffle! Bless her heart!

Missy

Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 3:19 PM CDT

Name: "brtty"

When I read the post by RG iwas curious too.  Thanks for taking and telling us your BF percentage. I'm definitely one of the five who care!

Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 4:30 PM CDT

Name: "RG"

Aw, thank you!!  And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with 19% though it makes me feel good to know that I can eyeball it.  I hope that's a number that makes you feel great.  It's not 17% but it's still pretty darn low for someone living on monkey food.  Which hopefully you knew about how you look.

Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 4:53 PM CDT

Name: "RG"

PS - I've been thinking a lot about my own body dysmorphia and not just because a VS catalog showed up in the mail room today (not mine).  I spent 10 years eating low-fat, low-meat and doing lots of dance.  I always hated my thighs and abs but I'm still not sure how much of that was because I have muscles there that VS models don't.  How much time did I spend comparing myself to ballet dancers (professionals and enthusiasts) who were really too thin and with less muscle than I want?  I'm not sure what I was trying to turn my body into back then, but at least I have a better idea of what is reasonable for my body now.  I may never have a flat VS-style stomach because that's where my body carries fat and because of those abs.  And my thighs are going to be large because of the lower-body work I do.  I'm not exactly happy about it but less jealous of the muscle-less women I see. 

Saturday, 20 June 2009 - 8:34 PM CDT

Name: "Abby"
Home Page: http://imnotneurotic.blogspot.com

Thanks for this post!  I was curious too.  :)  I think I'm floating around 19-20% as well, and have also recently been eating less meat.  I understand the "never being happy where you are" scenario, but I'm learning to be happy where I am, and am enjoying ice cream again now that it's moving into summer (can't quite cut out dairy, although I have looked at that coconut milk based ice cream).  

Sunday, 21 June 2009 - 12:40 AM CDT

Name: "deb"
Home Page: http://weightfordeb.wordpress.com

Damn, I would love to be 19%!  I don't think I've been there since I weighed 98# about 35 years ago.  But I remind myself, that a higher body fat is OK for my age.

 Still have to lean up.. and it's not happening.  sigh.

Sunday, 21 June 2009 - 8:02 AM CDT

Name: "Tracey"

WOW, I'm 19% body fat...always thinking 17% was ideal...silly because in my last post to you Renee I mentioned how much I wanted your body...thank you for this post. I guess I don't see my own progress,keep comparing myself to magazines etc. I think I need to rethink my own goal,maybe I'm a lot closer then I thought.

Sunday, 21 June 2009 - 10:03 AM CDT

Name: "barbara"
Home Page: http://austinbabs@blogspot.com

Thanks for sharing that with us and it does make me feel good too. I view your shape as my goal....really toned, not too thin and not too muscular. You're actually a great honest role model for allot of us out here :)

 

To be honest...I got to 12% once when I thought I wanted to compete. It was NOT fun and I felt like shit when I was there YET I STILL felt fat?!?!!?!? I mean come on? NOW..I'm more like 22-23%and my body functions better, I can generally mantain a thought but still feel...er really fluffy. The saga never ends...ahhh

Monday, 22 June 2009 - 10:39 AM CDT

Name: "Lucy"

I love that you're still lean *and* not stressing about numbers!


If you don't think it would interfere with your current 'non-lunatic' attitude towards food, I'd also be really curious to see what your average calorie and macro intake per day is - especially protein (mostly because I think I obsess a bit needlessly about protein!).

Tuesday, 23 June 2009 - 9:12 AM CDT

Name: skwigg
Home Page: http://skwigg.tripod.com

Here's a follow-up post to the bulky muscles debate:

The Ideal Female Body

I don't know if it's hilarious or horrifying that 61% of the women polled thought it would be "easy" or "very easy" to look like that pro bodybuilder by training in the gym.  ::forehead smack::

Tuesday, 23 June 2009 - 12:15 PM CDT

Name: "Marsha"

My Tanita scales weight me 10 points fatter than calipers - i.e., if the calipers say I'm 24% bodyfat, the Tanita will say I'm 34%.  And I've checked them against each other 3 times.  If I hadn't had the caliper readings, I'd be VERY depressed.

Tuesday, 23 June 2009 - 3:45 PM CDT

Name: skwigg
Home Page: http://skwigg.tripod.com

Lucy - I haven't added up calories and carbs and fat, because I figure if I get carried away those will show up on my abs pretty quickly. I'm not trying to hit any particular protein goal, but I do think about protein more than other nutrients. This week my curious rainman nutrient brain couldn't help mathing the protein in a few of my meals. My veggie chili dog was 27g, Ezekiel bread PB&J was 15g, bean burrito was 14g, hummus and veggies was 10g, lentils and rice was 12g, cereal and almond milk was 11g, black bean burger was 17g. It does add up over the course of the day, not to the 1g of protein per pound of body weight thing that we've all had drilled into our brains, but definitely more than the RDA, which I think is only like 46g.

Is that enough? I don't know but I'll be sure to report. So far I feel great and like what I see in the mirror. If I start to get weak and blubbery and puffy, you guys will be the first to know. LOL

Tuesday, 23 June 2009 - 4:42 PM CDT

Name: skwigg
Home Page: http://skwigg.tripod.com

Here's a YouTube vid with Craig Ballantyne running down the number of protein grams in his monkey food:

High Protein Vegetarian and Vegan Foods and Meals

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