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Skwigg Blog
Tuesday, 26 May 2009
Conditioned Hypereating

I finished reading The End of Overeating: Taking Control of The Insatiable American Appetite by David Kessler (see part one below). We have set ourselves up to become ginormous! The layered and loaded food, the new social norms, and the constant cues from advertising condition people to eat and eat and eat.

That slop you're looking at over to the left is called a Luther Burger. It's a bacon cheeseburger served on a grilled glazed donut! It is the very definition of a "layered and loaded" meal. It's an example of the sugar on salt on fat on salt on sugar on fat combo that causes people's brains to short circuit. It doesn't have to be that blatant though. The same thing happens with a restaurant salad. Ever noticed how a restaurant salad is so much more "craveable" than anything you throw together in your own kitchen? That's because in a restaurant, the lettuce is merely a carrier for the salt, sugar and fat. It sounds virtuous to order a salad, but by the time you add the crispy chicken tenders, the cheese, the croutons, the dressing, the bacon crumbles, the bread basket, and the creamy butter, you're just as fattened up and blissed out as the person eating a Luther Burger. If you eat that 1500 calorie salad in good company, on a fun day, and make all kinds of positive associations with the experience, you'll want it again... and again, and again, and again. Chili's, Applebee's, TGI Friday's and The Cheesecake Factory are counting on it.

Not only has this layered and loaded "big food" become standard in the U.S., it's now socially acceptable to eat anytime and anyplace. For example, it's perfectly normal to have a giant spread of food in business meetings. Europeans think our bagel basket behavior is completely bizarro. Why on earth do people need to EAT in a business meeting? Here, food is expected and nobody questions it. The French paradox doesn't look so paradoxical when you realize that they are accustomed to eating meals, you know, where you sit down at a table with other people at a set time. Sure the food is rich and delicious, but if it's not mealtime, you don't eat. Americans eat all day - in cars, on planes, in classrooms, in offices, at our desks, and walking down the street. We eat alone. We eat at odd times. We eat an hour after we just ate. We eat when we're not hungry. We eat when we're cued - popcorn at the movies, ice cream after dinner, muffins in meetings. It's a trip! No wonder the obesity rate is skyrocketing!

Weight doesn't necessarily tell you who is prone to conditioned hypereating and who is not. Thin people can be just as addicted and obsessive. They can experience the same "brain fireworks" response to the sight and smell of certain foods, but they manage to compensate by ramping up activity or lowering overall calorie intake, even if they still exhibit some weird behaviors, or lose control periodically.

There is no easy solution to the problem. I was relieved that Kessler didn't push a restrictive diet as the way to handle it. He says that the only plan that will work is one built around your lifestyle and your personal likes and dislikes, that you can't sustain a change in behavior if it leaves you feeling hungry, unhappy, angry or resentful. He says that early on, you need to avoid being cued. If you always lose control in certain places or circumstances, you steer clear of those for awhile. Then you make your own rules. You control your portions using foods that satisfy you and that you can eat in moderation. Maybe an engineered fully-loaded fast food burger is a trigger for you, but one you make yourself on your George Foreman grill is fine. That way deprivation doesn't enter the picture, but neither does mindless loss of control.

He also talks about counterconditioning and perceptual shifts, taking what's seen as positive and desired and turning it into a negative. He uses the tobacco industry as an example. For years, smoking was socially acceptable, sexy and cool. People did it everywhere without thinking. Now it's seen as something repulsive and dangerous, and the industry is being forced to act more responsibly. He says the same kind of shift needs to occur with "big food." Right now, you have fast food commercials showing skinny, healthy people eating at bright, happy restaurants. They're not showing you the obesity, diabetes, cancer and coronary artery disease.

The End of Overeating gave me some great insight into how we're being manipulated, and also a lot more compassion for people who struggle. You can be an intelligent, confident, loving person with extensive nutrition knowledge and a sky-high self-esteem and still lose all control in the face of your trigger foods. Now I understand why.


Posted by skwigg at 4:25 PM CDT

Tuesday, 26 May 2009 - 6:26 PM CDT

Name: "Greg at Live Fit"
Home Page: http://livefitblog.com

I've just about come the conclusion that eating out is so bad for me that I rarely do it anymore.  The portions are so distorted in size that my wife and I can share a plate at most restaurants these days.

The last time we went out on a date, we stopped at a local restaurant, went in and ordered an appetizer that we shared.  We left stuffed and didn't even finish the thing.

Ginormous indeed! 

Tuesday, 26 May 2009 - 8:33 PM CDT

Name: "Amy"
Home Page: http://minivanninja.wordpress.com

Michael Pollan addresses this ever so briefly in The Omnivore's Dilemma (I recommend it highly, as well as the follow up, In Defense of Food:  An Eater's Manifesto).  He goes into great detail on why corn syrup is evil and explores all types of food, from fast food burgers to pasture raised beef and chickens.  Basically, he tries to follow food from source to table.  Ever since I heard of Dr. Kessler's book I've wanted to pick it up.  After reading your review and seeing him interviewed about the book, I'm definitely going out to get it tomorrow.

It's an amazing revelation when you realize that most of the "food" out there in restaurants and drive-thrus are engineered to get you to eat more than you normally would if it was something you made at home.  

I'm starting to sense a shift in the thinking in the media (or I'm late to the party) about the food available in restaurants.   Especially these latest books who do more than say "Don't eat that, eat this"and actually explain it as if talking to an adult.  I don't know about others, but I like to have statements like that backed up by some sort of reasoning, which these latest books do.

Tuesday, 26 May 2009 - 8:56 PM CDT

Name: "Flo"
Home Page: http://stepawayfromthecake.com

I've battled my weight for years and could never understand why I was literally powerless when faced with certain foods.  When you wrote about this book the other day I ran out and got it and WOW!!!   It all makes sense now.  I was slowly realizing many of the things he talks about but now I get it.  Thanks for posting this, I really feel like a mystery has been solved and I feel I can finally conquer some of my food demons.  I'm off to villify some cookies :)

Tuesday, 26 May 2009 - 9:13 PM CDT

Name: "Betty"

I just returned from Paris two weeks ago.  My friend and I noticed that people did not eat  while walking on the streets or even while sitting on a bench. We didn't see people even drinking from water bottles on the street.   There was no litter on the streets; much of the litter on the streets of NYC are from napkins, cans and food wrappers.  Also, there is no to-go coffee available.  People drank coffee at cafes while relaxing and the serving sizes weree soooo small! No refills on espresso either!    Also, I did not see any sugar substitute in any restaurant or cafe. We were amazed to see so many delicious-looking pastry shops and lean-looking people in them!  And pepole in Paris eat white bread!  Talk about intuitive eating. 

Tuesday, 26 May 2009 - 10:02 PM CDT

Name: "Dina"

Do people really eat that donut-burger thing?  That looks disgusting.  I think that I could probably curb my appetite if I looked at that thing when I got hungry.  Might be on to something.

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 12:52 AM CDT

Name: "Kelley Moore"
Home Page: http://www.getfitwithkelley.blogspot.com

Hey Skwigg, interesting book, think I'll pick it up and thanks for such a great review of it. That donut burger thing ought to be against the law, literally. Reminds me of seeing deep-fried candy bars at the fair one year. Good Lord. I do think it's true that after a time of being away from your triggers you can diminish their power. Like you I'm encouraged he didn't come out with some unrealistic diet as a solution. Sometimes books like this scare me because I'm afraid of the concept being used as an excuse, but this one sounds different. Hopefully people will read this book, have a greater understanding of what may be going on for them and will then be armed to fight it and make a rebellious shift against this tactic!

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 8:46 AM CDT

Name: "Lydia Shelley"
Home Page: http://www.rainbow-websites.com

I have realized that my appetite and eating habits are STRONGLY tied to my menstrual cycle. SO much so that I mark what I call "Beef and Chocolate Week" on my calendar and shop accordingly.

The week leading up to menses is the BCW then the day menses start the appetite DISAPPEARS entirely for a day or two, gradually growing during that week to reach a normal level then staying steady for about two weeks before BCW returns.

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 9:28 AM CDT

Name: "Clara"

What I like about Kessler is that he doesn't go into the gloom and doom everything is horrifically bad for you rif that many books addressing the food industry do. 

Yes the food industry is doing things that encourage very bad eating patterns. The challenge is in presenting that information to a wide audience. I've had people totally tune me out when I bring up things like "Supersize Me" or even Omnivore's Delight. Kessler has good science and a calm approach. That's a huge asset in trying to get the message out to mainstream (ie the people who actually need it) America. 

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 11:00 AM CDT

Name: "Marsha"

I haven't finished this book yet, but it's a fascinating one.

I also recommend "Fat Land" - more about macro issues like agricultural policies - but also shows how the public has been manipulated into eating high fructose corn syrup into so many products - and also soy oil, as I recall.  (It's been a few years since I read it, so my memory is fuzzy.)

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 11:36 AM CDT

Name: "BrockO"
Home Page: http://blog.thefolderstore.com/2008/12/03/when-marketin

My wife reads your blog and told me I may be interested in your latest blog post as I have been "obsessively" studying the topic of diet and disease for well over six months now.  Your review was great and I am definitely going to read this book.

It has been a life-changing journey for me personally.  I feel like I can "truly" see for the first time in my life and I feel better than I have in 15 years (physically, mentally, emotionally).  We have been sold a pack of lies by industries which put profits ahead of public health. The rabbit hole is SO deep that at times I find it difficult to fathom the entire web of deceit.

All of the "real" answers are out there (backed by science and uncontested in our best medical journals) and nearly anyone can re-gain their lost health and appearance for free.  No drugs, no surgeries, no starvation, no counting calories, no portion sizes, no supplements/vitamins, no fancy exercise equipment, no yucky bars or meal replacement shakes, and no diet book of the week.  The solution is actually rather simple, just not easy to implement because industry has shaped our thinking, our norms, and our social interactions.  All of which lead us to do things that may feel good for a fleeting moment but ultimately make us feel miserable for the vast majority of our waking hours in a whole host of ways.

I used to think I could exercise away my poor eating habits.  That somehow it would compensate.  Now I realize that exercise plays a much smaller role than I would have ever dreamed possible.  It turns out, you eat for health and exercise for fitness.  If you eat the foods the human body was meant to consume, you will quickly begin to look and feel like the person you were meant to be (maybe not "your" ideal, but beautiful indeed).  I know, it sounds ridiculous and too good to be true.  I would have said the same thing a year ago.

If you get the eating right, everything else takes care of itself.  Just ask my wife (Nicole Heyrman), who nearly won $1 million through Body-for-LIFE.  Since then she had a baby and hasn't worked out in a few years (other than chasing our son and going for walks) but is nearly where she was when she worked out seven days a week, several hours a day and was hungry all the time during that fierce competition.  And she is not as into this topic as I am, so she is not obsessing over her choices the way she did during the challenge or the way I do now.

If what I have learned helps even one other person as it has me and my family, I will be content.  At first, I wanted to save the world with my newfound knowledge.  Now I realize that I have more than enough to worry about just taking care of myself and my family that I have to leave it up to everyone else to choose whether they want to be healthy or sick.  I wish everyone would choose healthy, but I know most will choose sick.  And that makes me extremely sad.  :-(

See my post "When Marketing Leads to Unnecessary Deaths" for my personal story and what I have uncovered so far with my new favorite hobby.  Note that I am not selling anything, just sharing some information sources you may also be interested in.  You will see my post is clearly off-topic for my blog and there are no affiliate links.

Keep up the great work, I know my wife sure enjoys it.  :)

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 1:28 PM CDT

Name: skwigg
Home Page: http://skwigg.tripod.com

BrockO - Your story is fascinating. I used to be very into McDougall and Ornish when I was a vegetarian. Then, for years, I was big into the bodybuilding / Body for Life six-meals-a-day, tons-o-protein thing. Now I've come back around to mostly plant-based eating, "monkey food" as I like to call it. When I first did that, I felt like I was breaking ALL the rules, like the bodybuilding police were going to come and get me! But I really enjoy a green smoothy for breakfast (spinach, banana, papaya), or a bowl of cereal with raspberries and almond milk. There's still a part of my brain screaming, "Where's the protein!?" But I look and feel just dandy and I'm sure my brain will get over it at some point. :-)

It's great to hear that you were able to turn your health around with a change in nutrition. Now that I think about it, my total cholesterol was always around 140 as a vegetarian. As a meatavore it always ran about 10 points higher. It would be interesting to see what it is now that I'm a... monkey. LOL I appreciate the link to the Free McDougall program. It was a good reminder. I'm going to go save some recipes!

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 2:31 PM CDT

Name: "Emily"

This was a fascinating book but I may never eat in a restaurant again!

I'd highly recommend it as an eye-opener on the food industry and how much work they put into getting Americans addicted to food. And I learned things I didn't know. For example, a lot of food in restaurants is double-fried: once at the factory to make shipping/transportation easier and then again at the restaurant. That is just crazy!

I also liked how he gave strategies for dealing with overeating and used himself as an example. It's not too often men talk about problems with overeating! 

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 4:16 PM CDT

Name: "Libby"
Home Page: http://libby.withnall.com

Thanks so much for your review of this book. I think it's something I def. need to read. I'm one of those who knows what I should eat, even LOVE healthy food, but still choose to eat JUNK that I know isn't good for me and makes me feel YUCK!! Your last paragraph bought tears to my eyes as I believe it describes myself.

Libby

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 6:14 PM CDT

Name: "Lydia"
Home Page: http://www.rainbow-websites.com

I forgot to mention: those burgers on a doughnut look disgusting. I'd only eat something like that if you paid me big bucks to do it, and even then it would be hard. Yuck!

Wednesday, 27 May 2009 - 8:00 PM CDT

Name: "Liimu"
Home Page: http://www.recreatingliimu.blogspot.com

I always love your blog posts, although I have to comment on thing: "Europeans think our bagel basket behavior is completely bizarro." I actually thought it was pretty bizarro on a recent business trip to London, because although our bagels and fruit are disgusting, I found it even harder to deal with their tea and "biscuits."  Biscuits? No. COOKIES. Yuck.

But I get your point, and I agree. Why DO we have to have something to eat in the middle of a business meeting, anyway?

Thursday, 28 May 2009 - 3:20 AM CDT

Name: "Lucy"

Liimu - in the UK, 'cookie' generally only refers to the chocolate chip variety. All plain versions are 'biscuits'. And the UK isn't really comparable to the rest of Europe these days.

Thursday, 28 May 2009 - 8:51 AM CDT

Name: "Sandra"

I had a similar epiphany as BrockO when it comes to the healthiest way to eat.  And I think I also followed a similar path as you Skwigg, the no-fat craze, followed by BFL, BFFM, and even Atkins to strip out carbs and get lean.  I reached a point where I would gag looking at meat.  At the same time I found Ryan on PN and started reading all his posts/advice.  Once I read the China Study, and did more research I realized two things: 1. I wouldn't shrivel up and die or get fat if I didn't eat lean meat/dairy. 2. The trick to healthy eating and managing cravings/binges is to avoid processed food and stick to fruits/veggies as much as possible. 

I was following the 6X day palm/fist protein/carbs route and couldn't get my weight down and felt tired.  It was hard for me to try something so 'radical' but now that I am eating vegan I feel better and lost 10 lbs effortlessly.

I still struggle when processed food is in the house (my husband and kids eat it). Some days if I'm really tired or stressed out, I will cave in and eat junk. I always feel sick afterward and beat myself up over it. I know I don't like it, but why do I do it? I think it is the fat/salt in the corn chips or the sugar/fat in the cookies calling my name!!

I'm going to read Kessler's book once I get my hands on it. I heard him on CBC radio two days ago, and was intrigued by his findings and suggestions on how to deal with the challenges of junk food being available at every corner.

Thursday, 28 May 2009 - 2:55 PM CDT

Name: "BrockO"
Home Page: http://www.drmcdougall.com/store_pleasuretrap.html

skwigg - Thanks for the reply and the "monkey food" laugh.  I was born and raised in Wisconsin, so I feel like a monkey trying to survive in a jungle overflowing with meat, dairy, and beer.  I prefer to stay away from labels such as vegetarian and vegan because too many of them are unhealthy.  I firmly believe Dr. McDougall has everything correct because he shares the "ideal" path to the health we all deserve...a starch-based diet, a pair of walking shoes, and clean habits.  However, he will probably never reach critical mass because people prefer to hear good news about their bad habits.  They want solutions that don't include change.

I like to say that I don't eat anything with a face or a mother.  I also like to say that I no longer celebrate Easter for breakfast, Thanksgiving for lunch, Christmas for dinner, and a birthday party before bed.   I can still remember when those foods were special (something to look forward to) but now people eat them daily with zero enthusiasm.

Desserts are my primary weakness.  My wife and I are dessert "connoisseurs".  I am currently doing the elimination diet to test for allergies and ate nothing but brown rice and water for seven days to clear my system.  Funny thing is that I got used to it and when I introduced apples they were a complete disappointment.  I expected them to be AWESOME.  It has been a few weeks now and I don't even think about treats anymore and don't miss anything.  Went to a holiday picnic, where junk food was the centerpiece, and nothing had any pull because I feel too good.  How cool is that?

Sandra - I also love the China Study.  TC is one of the true masters.  If you struggle with eating the wrong foods even when you know the right foods, you are caught in the pleasure trap.  If you want to finally understand why eating right is such a torturous battle and how to co-exist with those who do not want to eat like us, allow me to offer one of the most profoud presentations I have ever seen.  The Pleasue Trap by Douglas Lisle, Ph.D., see link above.  I would hate to ruin such a brilliant message, superbly delivered.  He also has a book but the video is priceless.  I have not run across anything else like it.

Thursday, 28 May 2009 - 4:13 PM CDT

Name: "Lucy"

There's a lot of these kinds of books coming out lately. I particularly like Gary Taubes' 'Good Calories Bad Calories' - it focuses on how the health industry and the government have misled the public on how to eat optimally for health, even in the face of opposing evidence.

Friday, 29 May 2009 - 8:23 PM CDT

Name: "Debra"

Thanks for the book review. I was interested and the husband was interested enough he bought it for me.

Friday, 29 May 2009 - 10:06 PM CDT

Name: "anastajia"

wow. i just added this book to my library queue.

i've been really skinny my whole life.

but i definitely have trigger foods.

 it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for me to open a box of cereal without eating the entire thing in one sitting.

or nut butter and crackers. will eat. entire jar. 

i always thought there was something wrong with me. 

like, can't most normal people just eat some of this and then put it back on the shelf? 

Sunday, 31 May 2009 - 5:13 PM CDT

Name: "Mich.H."

WOW.............I'm bamboozled by that burger!  That looks like something Elvis would have enjoyed.........had he still been around!  I cannot fathom how anyone would eat such a monstrosity!  Love the book review & being the curious Aussie that I am..........I will definitely get my greedy little hands on a copy of it!..........I'll skip the burger though..... don't want to clog up too many arteries in one sitting!

Monday, 1 June 2009 - 8:20 AM CDT

Name: "Danielle"

I'm about half way through this book, and WOW.  I don't like to "blame" my being overweight on anything but myself, and that still holds true :) but it certainly doesn't help when you have about 5,000 forces working against you.   The people's anecdotes that he uses thrughout th ebook are really compelling because almost all of us have been there, done that.  And YIKES-- it makes me enever want to eat in a restaurant again!!

Monday, 1 June 2009 - 11:42 PM CDT

Name: "julie"
Home Page: http://justjuliebean.wordpress.com

I crave a burger every few weeks, but donuts are way too sweet for me.  As far as restaurants go, I don't do them often, they're really not conducive to weight loss, but sometimes they are necessary for social reasons.  I eat Thai, sushi, veggie burritos, occasionally pizza.   For those of us with a tendency to gain weight, we can't just eat at the food trough with abandon, this means I eat lots of fruits/veggies, and cook at home.

Tuesday, 2 June 2009 - 4:59 PM CDT

Name: "RG"

The most disturbing thing to me about that picture is that it's not that different from a regular high-calorie burger bun with all the sugar and the mayo and the special sauce.  It's just more obvious about it.  One of the things that Kessler sidesteps is the reason that all this food is so cheap and available is the corn subsidies.  corn syrup, corn oil, byproducts of government-sponsored corn.  without those subsidies, farmers might be selling cheaper blueberries since more farmers would be growing a wider variety of vegetables and fruits...

Wednesday, 3 June 2009 - 12:51 AM CDT

Name: "Nichole"
Home Page: http://www.poweryogagirl.com

We experienced this in action a few weeks ago at all vegetarian-vegan retreat at Breitenbush. Although 3 square meals a day were served buffet style, saw very few people with huge portions. In fact Matthew and I got to talking about it and noticed in the absence of those trigger type salt, fat and sugar flavors? Real, quality, well prepared food in small portions can be extremely satisfying!!!!!!!!!

Wednesday, 3 June 2009 - 12:03 PM CDT

Name: "Karen"
Home Page: http://tastingtable.com/ecs/738.htm?sid=296404

Fascinating  post and comments.   On a somewhat related note, read about a documentary today called Food Inc. which opens on June 12 (link above). Features Eric Schlosser, Michael Pollan et al. Examines agri-business and its impact on our health. Got some good reviews.

Wednesday, 3 June 2009 - 6:49 PM CDT

Name: "Denis Faye"
Home Page: http://www.therealfitnessnerd.com

It's a great book, huh? I like that he not only identifies the problem but offers solutions -- and not pie-in-the-sky let's start a revolution to stop big business solutions, but individual take-resposibility-for-my-situation solutions.

So, um, where canI get a Luther Burger?

Wednesday, 3 June 2009 - 7:05 PM CDT

Name: "Kim"
Home Page: http://www.you-can-play-piano.com

Thanks for the reviews of this book.  I went last weekend and bought it and am already blown away by it, only 75 pages in.

I was a thin kid, adolescent, and young adult who gained a lot of weight in my late 20s/early 30s.  Reading this book, I think it actually started in college, but I was active enough to offset my eating habits.  I grew up in a family where my mom cooked from scratch, we rarely had things like soda and sugar cereal, and a trip out to a restaurant was very special.  

It wasn't until college that I started eating mass-produced (ie sugar/salt/fat layered) food, and of course it was the "all you can eat" cafeteria.  I always thought the shift in my eating came during some depression I suffered in my late 20s; but that wasn't the beginning of it after all.  The shift happened long before that.  Emotional eating didn't help, but the habits and food conditioning were already there.

I feel like this book is giving me actual power in the understanding of something I've struggled with for 10+ years.  I'm a smart, successful, happy person who has never been able to understand the freakish power that food seemed to hold (which I was free from growing up).  

Wednesday, 3 June 2009 - 9:47 PM CDT

Name: "rubyspirit"

That picture makes me sick to my stomac!

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