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Skwigg Blog
Saturday, 20 September 2008
Gwyneth on Oprah

Q: Dude. Did you see Oprah today? Gwyneth Paltrow's trainer just said that no woman should ever use more than 3 lb weights. Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! (video of Oprah segment)

A: I actually really enjoyed that clip! Maybe I've become a little too fascinated with celebrity fitness. :-)

I agree that no skinny woman who wants tiny Gwyneth arms should use more than 3-5 pounds. She maybe got a little carried away with saying NO woman should EVER lift more than 3 pounds (crimeny!), but if you're a lean actress trying to get rock solid but without Linda Hamilton striated delts and horseshoe triceps, that calls for absurdly low weight. Those women are already so lean that ANY added muscle is going to pop. Not a problem for the rest of us.

I've done my own experiment with backing off on the heavy weights. When I did Valerie Waters' Red Carpet Ready for 6 weeks, I used mostly 5 & 8 pound dumbbells for upper body and no weight for legs. It was challenging in a totally different sort of way, an owie gasping burning endurance sort of way. I did get smaller. My skinny jeans got noticeably looser in the thigh and butt when I quit using a 100 pound dumbbell for sumo squats (probably a big duh there).

BUT I missed feeling strong, so tiny actress arms are probably not in the cards for me. Still, I respect the amount of work it takes to get them. Turns out it requires a weird, painful and time consuming amount of effort to get perfectly "toned" arms with no size. Who knew?

I have become a little more attuned to the fact that you look how you train, and so you should adjust your volume and load accordingly. Don't train like a bodybuilder or power lifter if you don't want to look like a bodybuilder or power lifter. I happen to enjoy my smaller circumference thighs and looser jeans, so I don't intend to go back to heavy squats and deadlifts. I like fit arms, but I don't like big bodybuilding arms. So I won't be doing a bodybuilding training split or vast quantities of heavy isolation exercises anymore. I'm on a kettlebell kick lately because I love both the workouts and the look. It's wiry, springy, fit, and functional - strong but not big.

Personal preference is a huge part of it. I've removed the "women can't get too bulky" line from my vocabulary. What I consider small somebody else might consider huge. What somebody else considers bulky I might consider twiggy. A person's "look" or fitness ideal is such a personal thing. So, I've quit taunting the 3 pound weight girls. There is (sometimes) method to their madness. I've also quit questioning strong bodybuilding women because 1) they could snap my spine, and 2) if they like the way they look and the way they train, I should just shut up. LOL

Anyway! I've had a lot of caffeine today. Can you tell? Thanks for the video clip. I was totally completely fascinated with it even though I have no intention of doing the 3 pound dumbbell, skipping around the room, stretchy band workout. I hope to hell that show recorded on my DVR. I'll have to go look!


Posted by skwigg at 1:48 PM CDT

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 2:20 PM CDT

Name: "Glynis"
Home Page: http://glynis-p.blogspot.com

Full of hormonal cattiness, I have to say:  Celebrity or not, Gwyneth Paltrow does *not* have a body I'm envious of. Oprah can keep her & her trainer!   Her boobs sag, her arms are not just skinny - they look soft.  Everything about her looks weak and a bit sickly.  She's got horrible posture, too.   It cracked me up that below the video it said, "How Gwyneth Got That Body!"  I would subtitle it "And How to Avoid Doing This to Your Own Body" and put then link it to Craig Ballayntyne or P90X. :) 

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 2:22 PM CDT

Name: "Sonia"

I thought it looked totally fun (except for the heat). I am wondering if I can have one of those band systems installed on my backporch?

 And I have to agree, size is a personal preference, we all have what we consider our ideals and if you were to ask ten different women what they consider ideal, you would probably get ten different versions .

Live and let live

Sonia

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 2:48 PM CDT

Name: "Missy"

Well, I guess I better send back my 18 lb kettlebell back to coreperformance..... NOT! Gwynth P. is not the look I want at all. Give me Linda Hamilton Terminator arms ANY day; that is the look I want! But I agree, different weights and plans for different looks/goals. Very interesting that they work out in 80 degrees, that just does not seem good for the body - but who knows! Thanks for the link Skwigg, it is definitely food for thought (esp that she pushes TONS of cardio when I read Craig B. on his TT blog and he is so against tons of cardio!)

Missle

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 2:51 PM CDT

Name: "Missy"

Oops, I meant "Performbetter", not "Coreperformance" as to where I got my kettlebell. I had just been to coreperformance.com  and had it on the brain. Maybe I need some caffeine!!!

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 3:07 PM CDT

Name: "C"

Whoa, not exactly what you hear from most personal trainers.  If someone's goal is pencil arms, (and I'm not saying that some girls wouldn't sign right up for that look) then why bother doing anything weight related at all?  Why not just do cardio?  I can't believe that they'd be getting the health benefits from lifting so light so why bother? 

 I don't know, I just find the whole concept confusing. It says she is a trainer for Madonna.  Madonna doesn't have pencil arms...I can't imagine her telling Madonna she should never lift more than 3 pounds.  I think this is a case of bad personal trainer advice to be sure.  I'm just sayin.

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 3:28 PM CDT

Name: "esherman"
Home Page: http://www.elizabethsherman.com

So ditto girlie! Great minds must think alike!

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 4:18 PM CDT

Name: "Sara"
Home Page: http://becauseofcourse.wordpress.com/

Hey, if she feels good and likes the way she looks, who are we to judge her look, her workout, or her trainer?  I have done workouts with heavy weights and workouts with lighter weights, and both certainly have their place.

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 5:03 PM CDT

Name: "dragonmamma/naomi w."

I'm with you, Glynis. I bust my butt in the gym, and I want my effort to show, not look like an eating-disordered celebrity.

 Plus, I could beat up Gwyneth and her trainer with one hand tied behind my back. 

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 5:15 PM CDT

Name: "Glynis"
Home Page: http://glynis-p.blogspot.com

Actually, I did see a thing a while back on Tracy Anderson's workouts with Madonna.  She makes her do 100 repetitions with those teensy tiny weights.  100 reps!  To me that is just so incredibly boring.  I would so much rather pick up a heavier weight, push myself, and move on to the next body part that counting and counting forever.

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 8:37 PM CDT

Name: "fran"
Home Page: http://n/a

Skwigg,

To be honest the band stretchy workout does look pretty freaking cool! But as a certified massage therapist, the range of motion work they were doing with the light weights made me cringe. I'm not a proponent of wome lifting only 3 pounds either, but the awkward, freaky angles she was moving her delts and whole scapular area through would cause a lot of harm with anything much heavier. Especially on a little twig of a woman like Gwyneth.

I do love her as an actress, but wasn't she a raw foodie also? Should we really be giving her kudos for her knowledge?

Just MHO!

Thanks for a great blog!

fran

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 8:40 PM CDT

Name: "Moon"
Home Page: http://moonjaguar.livejournal.com

Gwyneth shouldn't be lifting her thirty pound son if her trainer says women shouldn't lift more than three pounds. XD   

The belly dance classes I took in '05 would wipe out Gwyneth and Trainerette.  Seriously.

Saturday, 20 September 2008 - 10:53 PM CDT

Name: "Heather"
Home Page: http://teamhansen.blogspot.com

Hola! I've thought a LOT more about this since our email exchange and I really think I'm going to research it more for the post-baby workout. "It" being the concept of more cardio, less heavy weights. I did notice that Tracy Anderson just released three new DVDs -- one of them is a post-partum workout. Interesante.

Sunday, 21 September 2008 - 10:07 AM CDT

Name: "Beth"

Did you also catch that she said she works out 6 days a week for 2 hours?!!  No thanks.

I like the way Gwyenth looks, and that's basically the look I try to maintain, but Red Carpet Ready does it for me in like 45 minutes to an hour a few times a week.  Two hours a day just seems insane.  

I will admit, though, I was trying to figure out how to rig up a band system like that in my garage.  That was way cool.

Sunday, 21 September 2008 - 11:59 AM CDT

Name: "Zsuzsa"

She says she is working frickin' hard all the time ... well, all I saw was that she was smiling and talking all the way through. I agree she looks quite sickly. While it's true that we have to respect everybody's right to have their own "look ideal", I think that she could and should use more interesting and useful means of achieving it. You can get pretty strong without gaining additional bulk, and doing a few pushups, pullups and shoulder presses, for example, only would make her more functional. She should also learn the proper technique of, say, the deadlift so she doesn't injure herself while picking up her child, or of the squat, to be able stand up from the toilet when she's 70. These leg lifts and whatnot won't get her far.

Sunday, 21 September 2008 - 7:07 PM CDT

Name: "Fancy Fembot"

This is a really great post. I'm interested in doing some arm work and DO NOT want to look like friggin' Linda Hamilton... but I see how others think Paltrow is a bit too waif. I'm gonna look into this more. 

Your site is awesome.

Sunday, 21 September 2008 - 8:15 PM CDT

Name: "Flabnonomous"
Home Page: http://flabnonmous.vox.com/

Zsuza, exactly!  I've been doing Crossfit workouts since January, which is pretty much what you described.  I am so much stronger without being bulky.

Monday, 22 September 2008 - 1:53 AM CDT

Name: "Zsuzsa"

Yeah, I'm CrossFitting, too!

Monday, 22 September 2008 - 8:40 AM CDT

Name: "Erin"

Because she's judging us.  She's saying that based on my chromosome configuration, she knows what I should be doing in the gym, and that is ridiculous.

I don't care about how she wants to work out, or whom she wants/does train, but I wouldn't be so bold as to say I have the signular answer that applies to half of the population. 

 

 

 

Monday, 22 September 2008 - 8:47 AM CDT

Name: "Loey"

I also feel the need to point out that body sculpting isn't the only reason to do strength training.  Building muscle now means that we still have functional strength as we age.  Using heavy weights is also very important in building bone density.  Strength training with lighter weights don't provide those benefits. 

 Maybe we should be less concerned about how we look now, and more concerned about how we feel later.

Monday, 22 September 2008 - 11:47 AM CDT

Name: "Moon Jaguar"
Home Page: http://moonjaguar.com

Zsuzsa and Loey:

Agreed!  I was warned about ten years ago that I'll have to have knee surgery by the time I'm 45 and now?  Not on the horizon.  I can get in and out of a catcher's crouch without my knees locking up.  My knees are no longer stiff and I rarely have pain.   Muscle's doing what cartilage and ligaments are failing at and they didn't come from 100 reps at 3lbs max and wave your hands up in the air.

When I'm seventy, I want to be like the grannies who can toss bales of hay onto trucks like they weigh nothing.  Never mind Gwyneth Paltrow or Linda Hamilton-- I want a body like Joan Jett! 

 

Tuesday, 23 September 2008 - 8:43 PM CDT

Name: "Mickey"
Home Page: http://NoPinkDumbbells.blogspot.com/

I'm surprised no one mentioned Gwyneth's comment about Tracy making her work one arm more than the other.  Gywneth said she always carries her son with one arm so it looks better and Tracy has her work the other arm more.

So, isn't Tracy basically contradicting her own theory? 

Forgetting about the higher / lower weight debate, I don't consider any exercise program that demands 6 two-hour workouts a week to be either realistic or effective. 

Friday, 26 September 2008 - 9:49 AM CDT

Name: "Katie"

I'm a personal trainer, and after I saw that Oprah episode I bought tracy's mat dvd to see what it was all about.  It reminds me A LOT of a pilates workout. I thought it was fun and different, but didn't feel completely balanced, and when I was done, I looked at my set of weights and felt the need to do some bicep curl with real weight.  The next day my shoulders were a little sore, but that was about it.   Skwigg, you should give it a try and let us know what you  think!

Friday, 26 September 2008 - 4:32 PM CDT

Name: "Kristin T."

Check out this article about TA:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-542948/Madonnas-secret-weapon-The-fitness-guru-whos-given-50-year-old-singer-body-25-year-old.html

Her approach really reminds me of the old Jane Fonda workouts I'd do with my mom. The really dancy cardio coupled with the 'toning session'. I recognized some of the same 'butt sculpting' moves in the Oprah clip.

It's so interesting the way fitness trends go through cycles of popularity. There's really nothing new under the sun.

I have to concur with the feeling that there's no one-size-fits-all style for fitness and body aesthetics. Everybody's on their own 'journey', as they say.

Saturday, 27 September 2008 - 9:02 PM CDT

Name: "Julie"

This entry left me very confused.  For years, I focused on endurance training (running, biking, swimming).  But, I was not getting the results I was looking for.  So, I did a lot of research and reading and determined that heavy weights were the key.  So, I started lifting heavy (in addition to the endurance training), but now I feel bulky.  I love Gwenyth's "look" but everything I read (Cosgrove, Turb. Training, Precision Nutrition, etc.) makes me think I have to lift heavy to be lean.  I  can't imagine lifting 3 lb. weights like Gwenyth does.  It just makes me wonder what is the most effective way to be lean (assuming nutrition is on)?

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